Sunday, September 12, 2021

GREENHOUSE EFFECT "IT AIN'T EASY" THE CLASSIC 1992 - BMI MUSIC - CLARK HAGINS.

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Saturday, September 11, 2021

Greenhouse Effect Songs 1989 "3/4" CLARK HAGINS And PHIL KEEGAN From The "Four Song" EP Vinyl

 

Greenhouse Effect Discography / Entire Recording History Chronology - Clark Hagins 1985 - 1992 BMI Music from Naruto Suzuki Japan on Vimeo.

32,935,495 Views - Greenhouse Effect "3/4" ( 1989 ).  This ODD Track for G.e comes from the "Four Song E.p" by the band in May 1989 and Clark Hagins says the track today is his wife's favorite G.e Song and by far; "She doesn't like most G.e. but she loves this one for some reason ( Laughs ),.. She says that it reminds her of 1980's KROQ ?? Sorry ,..but I don't see that" ( Laughs ) Says Hagins in 2015 for ROCK CITY PRODUCTIONS. THIS little song was another one of the tracks designed by Hagins from the drum seat as he would practice "Weird" Time signatures in his garage on the drums at 251 Paseo De Gracia in REDONDO BEACH CALIFORNIA; "THE SONG was paying homage to the band CAPTAIN BEYOND ,.. it's in 3/4 time ,..hence the name  ,..lol ,.. it was my yet another attempt at "Dancing Madly Backwards" sorta like "A Current Affair,.. that comes from the same E.p" Says Hagins. The Song has to be considered a very "minor" song in the history of the huge success of G.e. online all around the world and all over the internet; "This one is such a great little tune ,.. sorta heavy and grungey like maybe a mellow Black Sabbath or Zeppelin track" Says Hagins. "But it really hasn't taken off and or grown like say Brandy ,.. or those others,.. not even close ,.. ( Laughs )" claims Hagins.  "3/4" was written in 1989 during yet another difficult time for Hagins; "I was this real short, pale skinny white dude,.. and I wanted a chick badly ,..lol ,..but the people around me forgot to tell me that chicks ain't into skinny short white dudes ( Laughs ) ,.. I always just thought my sweet soul and heart would be discovered by a girl ,.. but they are into just money, fashion ,.. and bigger men ( Laughs ) and if ya's knows what I means there .." There was this young lady in Torrance California that Hagins quite fancied indeed and she will go nameless here ; "I just couldn't muster up the courage to get the job done there,.. it was real agonizing" Says Hagins. "I think a problem for a lotta people back when they are 23, 22 years old and shit ,.. is ,.. if they come from a weird dynamic family ,.. when they are much younger,.. it can really fuck a person up later on in life and I can tell you ,.. from the time I was two years old, my family always treated me with disrespect, I mean ,..I was the last of 8 kids ,... they treated me like fucking shit ,.. they talked down to me from the get go ,.. and I remember being young,.. I ALWAYS FELT LIKE SHIT, VERY INSECURE,.. YOU NAME IT,.. very depressed ,.. but my music shined because all the anguish poured into that MUSIC !!" THE LYRICS OF 3/4 are what Bassist Rick Carmody once called 'A good solid love song ,.. One of G.e's only ,..and one of the band's best songs" "Ted really liked that song and he loved to play it live" remembers Hagins. The song was considered quite personal to Hagins as Guitarist Phil Keegan really didn't write the track; "This was one of the "First" organized songs that I pretty much wrote it all" Says Hagins. "It's a real tear-jerker ( Laughs ),.." When the band performed 3/4 live, Hagins remembers though that Keegan "adding" things to the track made it sound even better ! and he even "embellished" with it and he seemed to have quite much fun throwing some Jimmy Page maybe even Robin Trower type guitar noodlings into the chorus part; "We played this song at Wilson Park in Torrance I remember September 1990 ,.. the last ever show with Keegan" Says Hagins. "It was quite a nice performance and quite emotional even if the crowd didn't quite get it.." Hagins today looks back and calls 3/4 "His" emotional masterpiece ; "I'm not the biggest fan of this song but when i stop and really listen to it ,.. and these painful sad lyrics of rejection ,. maybe 'self' rejection ,, ,.. it really hits me ,.. it's sorta like ,..I donno ,.. THE GUESS WHO "LAUGHING" or The Tubes "Be Mine Tonight" ,..  or something ,.. it's pretty fuckin' killer !!" People just gotta crank this shit LOUDER TODAY !" The young lady got married  in 1988 and apparently at quite the youthful age of 19 or so ,..and Hagins remembers his mother informing him of this as he strummed his guitar in the garage at 251; "She was like ,..You blew it" and in my mind I was like; "No YOU BLEW IT !"

THE TRACK was certainly the "First attempt / Precursor" to the much harder edged punk rocker from May 1990 about a year later "Waiting For Your Love To Fail!"


Hagins says that by 1991 and 92' he had devised ways to "Get with a lot of girls" that did not involve money, cars, or clothes,.. or security; "I just started using my charm and sense of humor more overwhelming them with rock n' roll ego n' shit,.. OH and plenty more alcohol and weed ,..'worked like a fuckin' charm-bomb !!" Barks Hagins. "Just crank side one of Zep 4 n' shit...just like Fast times would say ,,"

The song was one of only four tunes ever to be released on vinyl as "The Four Song E.p" was a Red "Picture Disc" showing a pic of the band on it that Hagins paid over 1000.00 $ to make ,.. HUGE MONEY back in 1989 !

Hagins copied a "Complete" "Greenhouse Effect discography" off the internet ,..and he includes it here below ;  

The Complete G.e. Recordings Chronology 1988 to 1992.

Greenhouse-Effect_Song List Complete 1985 to 1992. - Greenhouse-Effect_Mixtapes

Greenhouse-Effect_Song List Complete 1985 to 1992.

Greenhouse-Effect-Music

Clark-Haggans ;
1983; Age 18 ,...Performs with Torrance Punk Rock band "Outlash Control"... Rehearses in Gardena often

1984 / 85' - Rehearses often with Various South Bay Blues/ Rock bands among them "Soul Clinic" With Guitarist_Steve Stepanian and Bassist Rick Carmody as well as Bassist_Dave-Basen. Also Quite Often performs with the fragmented Group that would later become "The Jim Mellon Quartet" - Notes; Later on in 1986, 87 and various Parts of possibly 1988 through 1990, Performs with the "Christine Valley band" (The CVB) With Ohio Guitarist / Vocalist Joe Delsignore (Joe Groovey Dude). Also Plays with Gardena Punk band "BPS"... and others... (All of these on drums only)...

1988; Jammed with Black Flag Guitarist Greg Ginn at a Redondo Beach Music Studio ,.. As witnessed by Tom Shannon of Death and Taxes and others ,.. apparently was "trying out" audition for GONE and another project called Ginn-Tronics ,..'was never called back,, 

1989 ; Sang with Chuck Dukowski and SWA for four months ( A member of the band ),... Later quit to return to G.e.


1985, 86'
The "Clark Hagins" Solo Demo Tapes. Largely Recorded at South Bay Sound in Gardena California; Some tracks and "Bits" recorded at 251 Redondo Beach with home "Sony" Tape Recorders (Overdubbed). These are heavily organized "Grunge" guitar ideas as heard at BlipTV and other places. The distorted guitars ideas as clashing with "alternative" type songs were 'perfected' first at home in Torrance California before ideas were discussed in studio in an effort to "Capture it" to tape recordings.

First Songs Recorded; Late 1985 - Hagins Aged 20 

1.) Maury,...A Lad Insane
2.) Soviet! (Feel The Soviet Thunder)
3.) Somethings Wrong with the Boy

Engineered By Dan Jamele and Bill Rothenberg

"THIS" WAS an interesting recording session as these early ideas were '80's" sounding little tunes with influences from The Cure to the Smiths to the 1968 era The Who ,..but weirdly with DISTORTED GUITARS layered all over the tops of them ??? Perhaps similar in ways to the JESUS AND MARY CHAIN,.. 

1986; Not in this Order (Months unknown)


1.) Get it Right
2.) Angel Of hell
3.) Magic Fingers
4.) 'Don't Need You
5.) 'Been Her (Tania)
6.) Loser Girl - NOTES; 'This' is one of the most interesting early Clark Higgins Tracks,....right now, Somewhere there is only one (1.) copy of this song floating around the world on a cassette (If it still exists or hasn't been erased somewhere)...
7.) ?? More ? (Unknown)...

"THESE" re quite interesting songs indeed ! With weird influences here from Bruce Springsteen AND BEYOND !! A BOWIE INFLUENCE more than heavily emerging here ! 


Recorded by Bill Rothberg and Possible Dan Jammelle at "Media Kitchen" Gardena Calif. (South bay Sound).

Note; There "are' other (Possibly Professionally recorded too) Songs from this period. A Possible Song called "Scary Sabbath" was accidentally mailed away to somewhere unknown (And it was the only Cassette copy) The Master Tapes exist but are "Akai 12 track system" tapes,...and those Akai consoles are rarely used post 1992 (And of course in the today World of the 2000's are virtually impossible to find). NOTES; There was a 1987 Recording Session that began with Haggins and Dan Jamale and Lasted mere minutes as Hagins cut the session abruptly short - With due to a stress related Possible Panic Attack !! (A severe nervous condition Hagins has suffered since childhood and still to this day.) "It worked out perfect" Says Higgins "I remember something Like all of a sudden, the guy had to leave anyway" - (Laughs)  ..... 


RESULTING ALBUM ; CLARK HAGINS DEMO TAPES ,..LATER RENAMED AT ROCK CITY PRODUCTIONS; "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME" ( 1991 - 1993 )

FEBRUARY 1988 - With Guitarist_Phil Keegan, Bassist_Rick Carmody and Greenhouse Effect (February / March 1988) South Bay Sound Co. Gardena California - Likely not in this Order

THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT

1.) Precarious
2.) Number One
3.) Think About it (Yardbirds Cover)
4.) Wring that Neck   ( Deep Purple Cover ),.. 
5.) Racers
6.) The Magic Man
7.) Little Man
8.) Actor

RESULTING ALBUM; 'GLOBAL WARMING" G.E'S DEBUT MARCH 1988

Important NOTES; CLARK HAGINS FEELS MANY of these "Global Warming" ideas were "stolen" by people within the Music Industry and used for other bands,..  look , image , style, sound, etc,.. 


1989 - April / May 89' With Bill Rothenberg - South Bay Sound

1. 3/4
2. A Current Affair
3. Six Feet Under
4. Snake

RESULTING ALBUM; 'THE FOUR SONG E.P" APRIL 1989 - G.E'S ONLY EVER APPEARANCE ON VINYL - RED VINYL PICTURE DISC ,.. ALL 1000 COPIES SOLD

THESE first two albums later compiled and "Put together" album "Bargain bin" style in 1992 By Jeffery Snow At the original Rock City Productions. 

1990 - May 90'

1.) Virus O'Syrus
2.) Coke Snorting
3.) Waiting for your Love to Fail!    ( Keegan / Hagins ).

THE RESULTING RELEASE ; THE THREE SONG "IMMORALLY MORAL" CASSETTE - MAY 1990 

Notes; Hagins feels the idea for "Waiting for your love to fail!" may have been stolen by individuals within the Hollywood Music Recording Industry ,..


1990 - December 90' - Haggins and Carmody only

1.) Wilson Phillips
2.) America The Beautiful

1991 - January / February 91' - Clark Hagins; Drums, Guitar, Vocals / Rick-Carmody_Bass

1.) Dead End Street
2.) Ben is Dead
3.) Star
4.) Hey Negrita
5.) 22nd Street
6.) God's Joke

THE RESULTING GREENHOUSE EFFECT ALBUM; "GOING LEGIT" FEBRUARY 1991

NOTES; CLARK HAGINS FEELS MANY of these "Going legit" ideas were "stolen" by people within the Music Industry and used for other bands,..  certainly "STAR" , "Ben is Dead" etc,..certainly the classic "Hey Negrita",..Hagins Grunge distortion is now EVERYWHERE ON TRACKS ,..


1991 - MARCH , April / May 91' - Haggins and Carmody_Bass - Recorded with Bill Krodel and Mark Nathanson @ Jet City Sound Studios, El Segundo California

1.) Subdue
2.) Manipulation
3.) White Black Thang
4.) Please please me (Beatles Cover).

1991 - November / December / March 92' Mix

1.) Brandy

May 10-11 , 1992; Remix and Remaster of 'White Black Thang' and "Subdue"

1992 - May June ( Engineered By Bill Krodel)

1.) Search and Destroy
2.) People (That won't back down).
3.) The Ballad of Kurt Cobain
4.) No Takers

RESULTING ALBUM; GREENHOUSE EFFECT 'AGENDA" JUNE 1992,..

Notes; Hagins feels that the early 1991 Idea for "White Black Thang" was a "Blue Print" for 1990's Alternative rock bands,..as augmented by the Music Industry ,. Hagins wrote the June 1992 Track "Ballad of Kurt Cobain" as some sort of retort response to the Music Industry and later on in late 1992 "Big Teen dollars" unknowingly re-writing a Frank Zappa like concept idea from 1968's "We're Only In it for the Money",.. which seemed also to slam Cobain 


1992 - July / August

1.) Addicted
2.) Misogynistia
3.) Five Years

1992 - September

1.) Big Teen Dollars

RESULTING E.P CASSETTE  "BIG TEEN DOLLARS" - THE ENTIRE ALBUM A HAGINS DIATRIBE AGAINST HOLLYWOOD AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY  


1992 - October / November

1.) Theme
2.) Irie Bob
3.) Katy's Song (Gurdle)
4.) So Much Better
5.) It Ain't Easy
6.) White Suburban Liars
7.) Ripping Reason
8.) ??


RESULTING ALBUM; "WHITE SUBURBAN LIARS" ,..IN LATE 1992, HAGINS EXPERIENCED HIS FIRST EVER "FAILURE TO SELL PRODUCT" As bassist Rick "Ted" Carmody had by then left the band and the "Seattle" Music Scene had completely taken over the style and sound from heavy metal and previous traditional music that existed in 1991 and before;

These final 2 G.e albums were compiled by Jeffery Snow at Rock City Productions bargain bin style as "White Suburban Liars" ,..the track "Big Teen Dollars" found major success around the country on indie radios...

There are other Complete songs in here believe it or not as well as song "Fragments" recorded Dec and Nov 92' - A cover of Dusty Springfield's "You don't have to say you love Me" exists on Hagins' master tapes Recorded by Bill Krodel. Never released.

Band Officially breaks up in November / December 1992 - There are no more known recorded songs or works beyond this point - Bassist Rick Carmody Officially joined the 'One Handed Readers' possibly as early as Summer 1992 in Redondo Beach.

In 1994, the "Fountain Weird" CD is released - a mish mash of G.e tunes 1991 to 1992

In 1995 ,.. "The Rock Opera White Suburban Liars" Is released ,.. a 16 song "Epic" CD that Hagins feels is the "Best of G.e" 1990 to 1992... Attempted to "Turn into a "Concept" story" which had been basically abandoned from 1991,.. 


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17,034,945 Views - Youtube Video 2011 - Clark Haggins - That Music Online; KATIE'S SONG 2016 AWESOME // Greenhouse-Effect-Songs-2016 BMI RECORDINGS. - "Katie's Song" is the amazing all instrumental track that you might not realize is by GREENHOUSE EFFECT !! This is one of the rare songs that doesn't feature the always changing and evolving chameleon voice of Hagins. The Amazing Drumming is on display here though as is Hagins' trademark layers of distorted guitars as he records and overdubs everything with the assistance of the Late Bill Krodel. Bass; Rick Carmody.

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GREENHOUSE EFFECT SONG "NUMBER ONE" 1988 From The GLOBAL WARMING DEBUT CD - BMI MUSIC - ( Phil Keegan And Clark Hagins ).

 

Greenhouse-Effect-Songs "Number One" ( Feb 1988 ) Phil Keegan / Clark Hagins - Bmi Music. Youtube Video. from Naruto Suzuki Japan on Vimeo.

366,682 Views - Youtube Video - The Greenhouse Effect Song "Number One" was recorded in February 1988 after years of rehearsals at Bassist Rick Carmody's House in Torrance California. The swirling "Dorian" inspired guitar parts clash nicely with the echo infused Lead vocals from Clark Hagins. Guitarist Phil Keegan arranged this marvelous track - put together from years of painstaken trial and error as influenced by the Likes of Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page and maybe even Mozart and Beethoven !! Rick Carmody's dark bass lines lock in perfectly with the heavy Keith Moon style drumming from Hagins.... and "Ted's House" was the place G.e often rehearsed at ,..  Just a three piece band - and one who strived for perfection Live in trying to pull off all of their studio songs nicely ,.. for the stage, this track was just about "always" played live and early in the set usually ,.. "In 89', we started adding more and more material to the live shit and this song got moved closer to the end of gigs I remember" says Clark "The Shark" Hagins.  - THIS WAS THE SECOND SONG following "Precarious" on G.e's debut CD "Global Warming" in Early 1988 ,."The "Dorian" riffs and tangents of 6 string mastery are certainly Trademarks of Keegan indeed !! ,.. ..... G.e. would later part ways mutually with Keegan in 1990 and become a 'new' three piece band 'fronted' suddenly by Haggins who moved from Drums up to Guitar !! Drummer Martin Silva would take over behind the Kit in the more punk rock / alternative "second phase" of the Group where Songs like "Ben is Dead" and "Star" gave way in 1991 to more polished commercial tracks like "White Black Thang" and "Brandy" in Late 1991 and "Misogynistia" ( Shes a Bitch.....And then you Live" which was recorded in Late 1992. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2HQB0mKBro
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GREENHOUSE EFFECT "WAITING FOR YOUR LOVE TO FAIL!" ( 1990 ). BMI MUSIC - LOS ANGELES.

 

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934,924 Views - GREENHOUSE EFFECT "WAITING FOR YOUR LOVE TO FAIL" ( 1990 ). THIS MEAN NASTY LITTLE  AGGRESSIVE FAST SONG has almost nothing to do with what this three piece band would normally crank out back in the days of 1990 and prior and as Clark "THE SHARK" Hagins remembers it, this song was almost NEVER EVEN RECORDED by G.e; "We were a weird Psychedelic garage band but we badly wanted to break into the mainstream around our town of Redondo Beach Cali and that meant pulling out an agro punk rock song ,.. if THAT'S what it took ! I'm not sure if Keegan really liked the end result of this track all that much ,..but I think he liked the Paycheck" ( Laughs ). 'WAITING FOR YOUR LOVE TO FAIL" QUICKLY BECAME G.E'S most requested song when they played live and Hagins said the band would "keep" this song for the end of the set at the encore,. "We would tease the crowd ,..Phil would just play that opening riff and stop ,, sorta like Ray Davies and the Kinks with Lola ( LOL ! ),.. it was very annoying even for us within the band ,.. and ,... sometimes, WE NEVER EVEN PLAYED IT at all ,.. and just ,..  left the stage ( Laughs )." 1990 was a tough year for Hagins as his sister Kathy died in May of the year and it just seemed like one bad thing after the next,.."In 1988 , there was this young gal that I really fancied ,.. and well ,.. I guess she went and got married to someone else,.. I guess this song was the result !! ( Laughs )",... The 1990 "Immorally Moral" cassette would be the final GREENHOUSE EFFECT ALBUM to feature Guitarist Phil "FLIPPER" Keegan ( Dr. Phil ),... And Hagins says the split was 'agonizing" for him ,.. "Phil wrote this great riff here as we used to jam at Pendragon Studios over in North Redondo Beach in like 1989" Says Hagins for ROCK CITY RECORDS LABEL BLOGGING 2016,.... "THIS TRACK has turned out to ,..ya know ,.. gotta be one of my favorite  ALL TIME G.e tunes,.. it really barks all the frustration out of a guy !!" The Lyrics to "Waiting" are what Hagins describes as 'Diabolically Evil Shit ,..I FUCKING LOVE IT !!"   https://www.google.com/search?q=Buy+greenhouse+effect+songs+rock+opera&oq=Buy+greenhouse+effect+songs+rock+opera&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.8887j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Top Myspace Artists; Greenhouse Effect Music.... 2006.

Myspace.com's Greenhouse Effect constantly top the Myspace Music charts with great melodic songwriting and songs like "A Current Affair', 'Number One", 'The Magic Man', and "Coke Snortin' Love Boyz"....
Greenhouse Effect score well in the categorys of 'Emo Rock', 'Alternative', 'Grunge', and "Indie Rock" as well as "Metal" ,.. and they are constantly well surfed and seen in search engines world wide along with their large collection of "Google Music Videos"...
Very well made videos that basically serve as 'mini-documentarys' are seen and used by G.e. as a top promotional tool for their songs....
Some 80 Million visitors have seen Greenhouse Effect music videos on the net....

In 2008, the song "Brandy" has become more than a somewhat 'hit' song for G.e. and has helped to make them very well known....

The band started long ago as a simple three piece with a drummer lead singer! Drummer Greggie Tarpley would sing along with red haired bassist Rick Carmody and dramatic lead guitarist Phil Keegan...
Carmody who later went on to play with several bands around the "South Bay" area of Redondo Beach is simply seen today on the net and known as 'that red headed bassist guy in Greenhouse Effect' to viewers and listeners around the World...
Guitarist Phil Keegan is known as probobly the originator of 'grunge rock' as he is responsible for 1987 muddy tracks like 'Racers' and 'Precarious',...songs where Keegan says he would reduce the treble on his Fender Amps and crack up the midrange and the bass while stepping on his Wah Wah peddles to achieve a powerful loud 'muddy' sound...that the media would later coin as "Grunge'

The depressing lyrics of the song "Racers' would be the hallmark of Keegan songwriting and other songs such as "Little Man' would also sludge their way out of the speakers with power from the first album "Global Warming' in 1987....

Important footage of the band playing live in 1989, displaying Tarpley's abilities to both drum and sing live in an astonishingly good way mark G.e. apart from other more conventional bands as obviously...Phil Keegan's live guitar work in the 1989 footage is breath-taking as Carmody holds down some mean tight bass....
clearly , this well recording of this 3 man band displays them as the 'fathers of grunge' ...the creators of the '1990's indie 'alternative rock' sound !

It should and can also be mentioned that Drummer Greg Tarpley had a great poerful singing voice which could remind one of David Bowie or Syd Barret of early Pink Flloyd circa 1968...

Often, Greenhouse Effect sported a rich "Iron Butterfly" like authentic 1960's like 'garage rock' psychedelic sound.......

Along with Tila Tequila, Lisa Nova, Perez Hilton, and Happy Slip, Greenhouse Effect have become one of a handful of 'internet celebrities' ...though it is rare to see bands achieve a status like this, there are now many bands (unable to attain record label deals for whatever reason) who 'work the net' nightly - in an effort to pave their own musical path and make up their own rules,...G.e. has succeeded at this - like no other !

G.e. has blazed a revolutionary musical trail in cyberspace....

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Friday, September 10, 2021

GREENHOUSE EFFECT SONGS "IRIE BOB" OCTOBER 1992 - ROCK CITY RECORDS LABEL - CLARK HAGINS.

 

Greenhouse Effect Songs 2015 // IRIE-BOB-2015-AWESOME! Music @ jango Radio - BMI RECORDINGS UMG. from Greenhouse Effect Boryja force on Vimeo.

23,045,378 Views - Blip-TV Video 2012 - "We're interesting rock music ,...you don't hear much of that anymore,..thinking man's rock" Says Clark Hagins in 2015 "People root for G.e. ,... we have our dedicated followers base ,...I think that's very important in an era where most bands suck now" Great Structured Songwriting seems to lead the way for G.e. and tracks like "Irie Bob" are just clever enough to keep those web traffic views and itunes sales coming for one of the best things there is in cyberspace. Amazing Music comes from the Redondo Beach California band that really changed the web and Myspace back in 2005 but continues today with success all around the World !! JD POWER AND ASSOCIATES RANKS THIS THE GREATEST ALBUM IN THE WORLD !! So says the funny title to the little CD that is shaping up to be the best music of 2015 World Wide with a indie rock musical style that is completely different from anything that you have ever heard before !! There's just something to the Songwriting of G.e. The Magic in their music and their Blogs gets you watching and gets YOU ROCKING !! "I think blogs are they Key" Says Clark Hagins in 2015 "I write shit that people can relate to ,..but then the music is really REALLY GOOD ,..STATE OF THE ART SHIT" Says Hagins. G.e. is not afraid to boast as Hagins sees a dead music scene in early 2015 where his band is one of the few interesting things left on Earth. "Our shit just blows all other shit away ,..we sing straight from the heart ,..I know that often our songs don't make any sense ,..but people can feel the agony in the grooves,... I have led a special kind of horrible Life" Says Hagins with a Laugh ! magisto.com/album/video/ejonBk0GFkA9KDsHDmEwCXt- // Amazing Greenhouse-Effect-Songs-2015 "Irie-Bob" The Hottest Sounds On The Internet 2015 ! BMI MUSIC - INDIE ROCK That Matters ! Greenhouse Effect LOS ANGELES - THE HOTTEST ROCK On the internet and always a top cyberspace draw Every Night ! Their Videos are fantastic and edited to make you laugh and cry on Queue !! "Irie Bob" is Songwriting that rivets YOU to your computer screen and Clark Hagins is never afraid to tell it exactly as it is and call em' as he sees em" !! "Our music has changed the internet,...since 2001, we have been THE major force for music ,.... for over 35 years, Major Labels have been copying G.e. ,..we are clearly the innovators ,..the Pioneers,..the originators " Says Hagins. In the years 2006 through 2012, G.e's videos dominated the Web and Hagins held a captive audience at Blip Tv and elsewhere ,.. "We're still a number one draw,...but porn really bothers our web traffic" Says Hagins,.. "Our songs and our songwriting are the key though ,...People can see that I am one of the best in the business ,..not just at songs,..but also at blogs,..at poetry ,..at fucking EVERYTHING !!" Says Hagins ,... The messages in Hagins songs seem like real downers but Hagins calls himself a positive individual and even declares himself as a God worshiping person with a bright hook with his heart right on it as he describes G.e. Music as "Unhappy Christian Rock Music" We're realists" Says Haggins "This world is a fucking Pile of shit ,...." Heavily dedicated in his youth to bands like Captain Beefheart, The Who, Butthole Surfers, and the Pixies, Haggins would throw elaborate rock concerts around the "South Bay" area of Redondo Beach California near Los Angeles in his hey-Day but he quickly discovered a huge market for G.e. on the web circa 2001 when he made a Pro Surfing video that he dedicated to Tom Curran ,... "I used to try to surf and I got pretty good when I was a kid ,... but all these fucking Douchebags would throw rocks at my head out in the water,..so I quit" Says Hagins. THE BRAND NEW G.E. CD IS 'JD POWER AND ASSOCIATES' And it is one amazing song after the next !! Get it @ #itunes ! https://vimeo.com/120456708 @ #Addicted @ http://thegreenhouseeffectrocks.com/audio/THE_GREENHOUSE-ADDICTED.mp3 #HermosaBeach #ManhattanBeach #Vimeo #WebTraffic #Seo #SouthHigh #KidAtWork RT

Friday, October 18, 2019

GRUNGE GODS; GREENHOUSE EFFECT MUSIC - THE INVENTORS ! 1980'S METAL JIMMY ; THE INTERVIEW 2019 !!

Greenhouse-Effect-Songs-LIVE "Precarious" JULY1989 Santa Monica CA - BMI MUSIC HOLLYWOOD. from Naruto Suzuki Japan on Vimeo.
============================================================================================= METAL JIMMY INTERVIEWS GE. !! OH MY !!
OCT 11, 2019 Los Angeles Calif !!
Live from "The Hood" South Central LA

METAL JIMMY; So Lets talk about G.e. 2019,..you're how old now ,..( Laughs ),..like fucking 78 ??

Hagins; No,..no,..54 ,..but I've got this thang with me legs,, now,..feels like Lou Gehrig shit,. I limp like fucking 72 and a half ,.,..or maybe Lou Reed,, lol

METAL JIMMY ; SO LET'S TALK about the Mighty G.e. now ,..2019,..Vr it,.. You're music is getting immensely popular all around the world now,..so ,..is this Jango shit just,... Payola ( laughs) ??

Hagins ( Now both Laughing ),..Jango Radio is like the heaviest shit man ,..I can play all my fuckin' shit on there,..the whole world hears it,..and there's nothing they can do about it,..they can't stop me now,..and me grande designs,..like I'm fucking Neil Peart !! aaaayyyhhee,.. a rock n roll PIRATE I YAMMS,.. LOL

Metal Jimmy ; But bro,..admit it, be honest,..all kidding aside,..you're music is quite good,..every song takes a different turn,..you never really settle on one thing ,..in one place,.. YOU'RE MAIN Problem,,I have always felt,.. You don't take it seriously ENOUGH BRO !

Hagins: That's because of way back in the day,..listening to a diverse collection of shit,..from David Bowie to,..Like Harry Nilsson to Atomic Rooster ,..to like and,..and Neil Innes and THE RUTLES; FUCK YEAH THE RUTLES !!

METAL JIMMY; THE RUTLES ?? YOU mean that Monty Python shit, Eric idle ,.?

Hagins; Yes,.. probably me favorite band,..SO LIKE,..just think of us ,..G.e ,..we're like today's Rutles,..to reality ,..instead of how they were just to the Beatles,.. we are the Rutles to like 50 different bands,..lol,..

Metal Jimmy; so what  happened back in 1990 ,..why did you guys go separate ways with Dr. Phil,..the Flip-Meister himself,..Phil Keegan,..the MASTER OF STRAT DISASTER,..THAT LIVE SHIT WAS SO KILLER ON YOUTUBE,.. bro ! LIVE IN SANTA MONICA BRO,, SICKEST SHIT !! Just three ,..piece up the ass jammin' Ginger Baker Boss shit man !!

HAGINS; WELL,..I was a kinda a young impish weirdo kid,.. immature,.. or maybe too grown up,..listenin' to my Beatles and my Stones,..MY Bowie,.. and all my weird artsy fartsy shit,..Flipper was into Deep Purple,.. guitar shit,..Zep , Clapton,..don't get me wrong,..I'm into that shit too,..I dig Cream,..only ,.I think i like the early Deep Purple with Rod Evans,..an fuck yeah,..later on,..I loved the CAPTAIN !! FUCK YEAH CAPTAIN BEYOND !! 1972 !! ALBUM IS AMAZING !!,,...And of course Zappa !!

METAL JIMMY; WHY DO YOU think your music goes so good with my surfing shit ??

Hagins; uh,..fuck ,..you could put anything with surfing ,..but yes,..I think my drumming locks onto surfing nicely ,..surf beats,.. 

Metal; Seeing that you guys are so popular all around the world now,..300,000 fans and followers at Jango and shit,.,.. why don't you tour,..?

Hagins; I already told you ,...I'm 54 years fucking old now ( laughs ),... Hella old here bro !! Now,..

Metal ; Tell me about The early days,..at Ted's House,... Torrance,..El Retiro Park,..era,..

Hagins,..; Well ,..those were amazing early times,..and like I mean we drank early TIMES, BRO,..AND WE PARTIED, GENERALLY GOT WASTED FROM 1985 TO 1990 ,..BUT we recorded such great shit ,..important times !!

to be continued,.. 

Metal Jimmy; OK,... ok , I really want to FOCUS NOW ,..I want to talk about that "early period" of G.e. especially ,.. those days at El Retiro Park in Torrance CA, just You, Carmody and Keegan,.. how did that come to be ? 

Hagins; In 1986, I was driving this Vw piece of shit Fast back around Torrance and Redondo ,..and I had 'just learn to drive" ,..other kids drove at like  15 and a half and all that shit,.. but I never drove a car til I was like 21,..no shit ,.

Metal; No shit ?? !!

Hagins; No fucking shit bro,.. that's how fucked up I was,..and I would always go to this dudes garage to get my shitty Vw's worked on,.,..and i would hear in the distance,..that Douchebag Ted,..jammin' with these 2 dudes,.across the park ,..I always thought Ted was kinda a back-stabbin' creep ,.me and him had a band before ,..we jammed with this dude Steve "Stevo" Stepanian,..from like 1984 til 85, 86' ,..Stevo was amazing,..we played this insane heavy blues rock,..it coulda gone some place,..great songs we had,..I arranged all of Stevo's shit,..and turned them into organized songs,..i had the mad skills ,..and we were like this tribute to the Who but like as good or even better than the Who; we were insane,..but it never really took off,..out of the garages,..I mean,..the potential was there,.. we smashed our gear and we even had like these mad cat punk rock moments,.. to be honest , it was a better band than G.e. ever was,..We called it "Soul Clinic" ,..we played this most unbelievable gig one night '86 in Lomita, I was just 21,.. where we opened for the Twisters, blew them the fuck off the stage,..! and they were the biggest band in Los Angeles,..a bit old by 1986 though ,..anyway ,..long story short,..Stevo liked to hang at the beach, get high, play volleyball, meet chicks,...then one day I heard he was movin' to Grass Valley way up North, ,..bummer the Soul clinic faded into oblivion ,..but then suddenly ,..the Mighty G.e. was born !!

Metal; So how did that hook up ?

Hagins ; I went over there,..and like Ted and Flipper were jammin' in Ted's room which was such the famous jam room, South Bay Torrance 'n all ,..and they were playin' with this pretty amazing John Bonham type drummer a kid named Rich Hebben,..a way better drummer than me ,..so I grabbed a mic,..and started singin' one night,.. then I showed up one day and they said Rich was bailin' the band to go to cooking school or some shit and suddenly I found myself doing what I love,..jamming with a Cream three piece ! AND PLAYING MY DRUMS !!,.,, like fuckin' Rush meets the Who,..Keegan was amazing on guitar and it's weird,..because I knew Phil longer than anybody ,..since like we were in first grade,..1971 '72 era,.,... Park Way Elementary School Torrance by the beach,..me walkin' there in the mornings and hearin' Nilsson "Without you" comin' from somewhere,..great memories,.. you could walk to a school then ,.. at age 7 ,, without being abducted,..LOL

Metal Jimmy ; How did that first album,,which was so fuckin' trippy and rad,..1988 ,..how did that come to be,.. ??

Hagins,; "well ,..we jammed for what seemed like forever at Ted's house 1986 to 88'  and "Precarious" seemed to be our signature original, we played it over and over,. ,..they had played it with Hebben for a while long before,.,..but with me,..it got even more powerful ,.. "Number One" was this Dorian Guitar  amazing shit that Keegan wrote and would play just fucking insane ,.. these 2,..and a cover of the Yardbirds "Think about it",.. these were THE EARLIEST AMAZING EARLY WORKS OF GE !!

WHERE DID YOU GET THE NAME GREENHOUSE EFFECT?

HAGINS; I think A guy named Andy Vest suggested it ,..some say I thought it up,..but I don' think so,..we were all gettin' drunk in a room,..and there it came,.. I keep the memory ,.

Metal Jimmy ; You're kinda a Fox News douchebag,.. a rightie ,..Why did that name click with you ??

Hagins; ( Laughs ) ; I wanted a name that was in conflict with my beliefs ,..something that I can debate with myself,..like masturbate,..( Laughs) 

Metal; But you were lookin' for some kinda appeal ,.like environment,..or green ,..like marijuana or somethin,..to connect?? with douchebags,. ?? around the South Bay,..

Hagins ;  yeah definitely ,..fuck I donno,..I am into the music,.but yeah,.I get all self worried and conflicted,..no doubt,.. and those times, the late 80's were weird times,.

Metal; How about the song "The Magic Man" ? that's classic fucking shit,..whats that all about ,. ??

Hagins; Well,.I was like 23,.. tryin' to branch out,..and that was sorta this accidental tribute to my mother,..in comparison to what pro athletes make money wise vs,..her school teacher gig,.. (laughs),..

Metal; so you guys had this amazing album goin' all around the South Bay and L.A ,.. were you guys blowin up or just blowin,..lol ??

Hagins; We started to blow up kinda big and get a great reputation,... the whole scene in Los Angeles was Heavy metal ya know like Motley Crue Poison typa shit,..but we hated that shit,.. we kinda like Maiden though ( laughs ),..AND SLAYER !!! Bands that are kinda techical ,.. but,..WE were JUST three REGULAR DOUCHE guys who dressed normal,.. just t shirts ,..well ya know we dressed like shit ,..especially me n Ted,..we felt like shit,.,.Flipper was a little more normal HE had like this way better upbringing than us,.,..he had a clean demeanor , nice guy clothes, dude looked like Greg Brady but played a mean fuckin' axe !! it was like this total contradiction ,.a little reminded me of Angry Samoans typa vibe,..lol ,,

Metal ; A lot of your life seems to fuse into G,e, ,..it really get's into those lyrics in "Racers" almost makes me cry n shit,..great fuckin' tune; EARLY Proto GRUNGE ALL THE WAY 1988 !! man !!

HAGINS; YEAH ,..that's a fuckin' amazing track,..I wish we could go back in time and re-recorded it a bit tighter ,..though it does sound pretty rad,.. as it is,.

Metal ; So the year 1988 was pretty rad ?

Hagins ; No,..not really ,..my personal life was trippy,.. there was this chick I was into,..she got married to someone else,.. I felt like shit,..but survived it and moved on ,..all kindsa shit,.. lotsa family shit,..

Metal : Why are there so many songs not on Jango ?? ,.. why do you not have up that song "Actor" such a great fuckin' tune,..from 88' ,..and Little Man,.. ?? and others ! Bro ??

Hagins;  I will probably find those and put them up soon someday ,.. lol,.."Actor" is kinda lame and cheesey ,..but I knew you might like that lame shit ,..lol, sounds as lame as like some Deep Purple metal tribute,..( Laughs ),..anyway,..the live gigs 88' were rad,..some legendary break through shit,.. We knew we had something totally unique, different, a full resurgence of like 1966 to 68' shit ,.. we started sending all this shit to labels,..indie AND MAJOR ,..WE KNEW WE WERE THAT FUCKING RAD,.. WE COULD sign with a major label deal ,...but I also knew,..We could improve too !!

Metal; Then comes early 1989 ,..and you guys are then gettin' into trippier shit,..what was the deal with "A Current Affair" ,.. fuck that shit was rad !! 

To be continued ; @ Jango #Radio
October 8, 2019


Hagins; Yeah 89' was when I was turning 24 ,... listening to a lotta shit like Captain Beyond ,...and experimenting with weird drum beats,... I was getting a bit of a reputation for drums by 89 era,..  which I kinda hated because my singing was so important to me,. but I was a pretty rad drummer, no doubt,.. our three piece line up was BY THEN PRETTY MUCH  unbeatable shit,..the way we looked, the way we stood there, rocked out,..my drumming definitely propelled those 2 clowns,..to a higher level,.. but being a singer from the drums,..took a lotta practice back at THE 251 garage,... I was a perfectionist ,..I had to nail the drums with energy exact like Keith Moon or Neil Peart ,..but I had to nail the lead vocals as i drummed,.. live, ,..AND,..the vocals were way different from the studio,..nothing like them,.. in fact,..much more bass in them live,..had to be,..to get above the drums,.. We were starting to play amazing shit live ,..but we totally struggled with "A Current Affair" ,, that weird beat ,..sorta like "Dancing Madly Backwards" By Captain Beyond,..I just couldn't pull it,..but all the 4/ 4 shit was very doable,..and we were insane live,.. THE BEST !! THE LOUDEST, THE SWEATIEST !! 

Metal-Jimmy; Yeah Yeah Blah Blah ,..you're a self proclaimed legend ,.. the Ty Cobb of garage rock,.. but let's get to the real story behind G.e. ,..Now,..when did you meet the 2 douchebags who later signed Nirvana , the Geffen Connection n' all ,..lol ??

Hagins: This happened long before indie and Alternative rock would break out in the Early 1990's ,... I would meet Craig Aaronson at a record shop up in Hollywood one day while putting down flyers for a G.e. gig ,.. but this was some time back in 1988 ,.. he told me that he "was connected" to A & R People but that he did not yet actually have a job at any Record Labels , he told me that he played in bands around town ,..and he also wondered if I was 'connected to anything" ,.lol,..

Metal-Jimmy ; Did you give him a G.e. tape then ?

Hagins; "yes,..of course,.. he got Global Warming and my phone number, etc,.. and it wasn't long before he called me ,..at 251,..

Metal-Jimmy ; So what happened,..did he like it,..??

Hagins: FUCK ,..DID HE LIKE IT ??,...he was completely Blown away and he said he would "give it to others" ,.he gushed to me that he had NEVER heard a sound like "Precarious" and "Number One" and all this shit,.. he said it was the highest Energy shit,.. like maybe the Yardbirds,..type shit,...very 60's vibe,..yet totally up to date,.. he mentioned that he was going to give all my stuff to this guy named Gary ,.. and he gave me an address in West Los Angeles,..to mail him more stuff that he needed,..8 X 10 glossies ,..etc,.. better pics than I had already given him,.. I put together one of our Promo packages,..which were always the best in rock ,.. and mailed all the Shit to the guy ,..then suddenly ,..I would see him down in the South Bay,..I would bump into him at record shops DOWN HERE,.. he seemed big interested in Redondo Beach quickly I saw,..lol , I remember telling him,..the odds at finding another G.e. around here are slim,..BUDDY ,.. and that we were a rare thing and that we "Were not the typical sound,..of the South Bay" lol,.. rummaging around Hermosa won't do ya much good !"

METAL JIMMY ; DID you ever hear anything,.? did you follow up ?? with your tapes,.

Hagins; I mean,..i would call the guy,..I did what I could ,.. but I didn't wanna bug the dude too much ,..shit,..sheesh,..believe me,..  bro,.I TRIED,..I AM ME BRO,..A PRETTY PESKY PERSISTENT ,..DUDE HERE,.. I remember I told Flipper and Ted didn't seem real interested JUST thought I was full of shit as usual,.lol,..,... We were drunks n stoners,..remember,.. but I "knew" we were onto something and that,..it WAS UP TO ME,.. !!,..ALSO I KNEW,..We had to keep moving forward,..with our music,..our sound,.. !!I explored 'other" connections too,.. I would meet up with ,..a guy named Larry Coven who said he was connected to Electra Records, etc,.. I mean dude shit,..bro,..I met all these people,.but you know L.A,..it's crowded,..it's tough ,..and it was ALL HEAVY METAL 1988, 89, 90, ,...EVEN Most of 91' !!

METAL ; I SEE FLIPPER sings a track from your second album,..I  should say your Ep,..the colored vinyl,.. "Six Feet Under" kinda rad little song,.. 

Hagins: yes,.. "The Four Song Ep" ,..cost me like 1000.00 $ to make ,..a lot of money back in 1989 !! ,..to still be putting out a vinyl !! I sold them all out though,..now,, I wish I had one,..( lol ),, My wife today Veleda,..she loves the song 3/4 which was about that chick named Tania ,..( lol ) who got married,.. 

Metal: the vibe for G.e. must have been growing huge !! 89'

Hagins; Yeah,..it was,..but things come and go,..ebbs and flows,.. the way I look back at it now,..1988 was a way better year,... no way to cut through that L.A Hair metal scene , and Bam Magazine shit n all,..1989,.. these were simply "Not" alternative rock or emo times,..at all,..lol ,, believe me,..a douchebag like you would have loved 89' ,..LOL !!

Metal-Jimmy ; So you get to 1990 and now you guys have some amazing shit,.."Coke Snorting" and "Waiting for your Love to Fail" , Immorally Moral ,.. the buzz must have been ridiculous ,.. 

Hagins,.. By 1990, G.e. were playing bigger shows,... a huge gig at Wilson Park in Torrance in front of like 2000 people,.. and no doubt, Hollywood had taken notice of us,.. but the shit with Bam Magazine was weird , They fully took my shit out of context , printed weird shit, I was talking to Attorneys,..'wanted to sue these Losers,, ! ,..my sister died in May 1990,..right in the middle of our recording,.. all kindsa weird shit goin' down, alotta people hated me,.. South Bay drama shit ,.. but things were about to get really odd for G.e. ,... we were about to take a turn,..into the Twilight Zone,...

Metal Jimmy ; Virus O' Syrus ,..the sickest "metal" shit you ever recorded,..not on Jango, hard to find online,.. you need to make videos for that shit and put that shit up !! ,..but ,.. I know you parted ways with Flipper 1990,..what the fuck happened,..?? That must been some heavy drama shit !!
South Bay type shit ??

Hagins: Our egos had gotten huge ,... I made the stupid suggestion to put me at lead singer only and for us to look for a drummer,.. We found a guy named Mike,..this Mexican dude,..who was pretty good on drums,.. we found him in the Recycler Paper -the CraigsList of the day ( lol ),..AND ,.. a lot of people were like "Shark,..yer the Great Drummer,..why are you just singing,..? you are killing the special magic trio thing that IS G.E. " ,..I DIDN'T CARE,.. I wanted to get signed badly and I figured a more "Normal" 4 piece band was the way to go ,...

Metal-Jimmy ; "But G.e. is NOT A FOUR PIECE,... YOU GUYS were a natural three-some,.. you guys going 4 ,..that would be like Rush putting Geddy on lead vocals and hiring a bassist,..bad move !! IT KILLS YOUR WHOLE IMAGE !! MIKE WATT WOULD ,..be bummed,.. 

Hagins: yeah,..we didn't think it through,.. We didn't ,.like,.. know it at the time,..but I sorta did,..the Mike Valencia Version of the band was actually kinda Professional-ish live,.. trouble was,..G.e. were not Pro's,..we were HOBBIEST'S ,..very skilled high energy amateurs,..very erratic,.. yet tight also,..very exact !! Think like,..The 1967 ?Who !!  Perfectionists ,..yet idealists,..performance art,..self destruction !! THEATRE OF THE ABSURD AND,...UH,...  With Mike, we almost became like just any other metal band,.. and I wanted no part of metal !! I listened to stuff like Black Flag,.. AND,.. stuff like firehose or the Minute Men and their three piece,, very appealing !! I wanted to be in Flipside magazine ,..Not Bam !! I WANTED REAL CRED !!

Metal Jimmy; How did the final days with Flipper go ?

Hagins "; Very awkward,.. I had all these songs at home,..THAT OVER MANY YEARS,..I had WRITTEN 'ON GUITAR",,..kinda secretly ,..sorta like a Dave Grohlish TYPE Douchebag,.. .. I wanted G.e. to go in the direction of a Flipside like Punker three piece,..yet still have long hair,.. I don't really know where this inspiration was coming from AS I WASN'T REALLY INTO THAT SCENE MYSELF ,.,.. all i knew was that I no longer wanted to jam with Flipper,..his stuff was getting way too metal,.. there was this awkward meet up where me and Ted saw him with another band at the studio,..very weird,..but in late 1990; America the Beautiful, Wilson Phillips, and Ben is Dead,..they had to be BORN !! AND THEY WERE !!

METAL JIMMY; THE NEW PUNKER G.E. !! GRUNGE ,..LOL ! late 1990 !! and I never got to see you douchebags Live either , damn !! Let's go south bay surfin' !!

HAGINS; AWE YES,... LET'S BE ,.."GOING LEGIT " 1991 !!

METAL JIMMY ; NOW,..YOU GUYS TURNED IN A WHOLE NEW DIRECTION,,IT WAS THIS WHOLE NEW SOUND AND "STAR" WAS DEFINITELY SOME KIND OF INDIE ROCK "REVOLUTION" ,..WHERE THE FUCK did that and all these new songs originate,.? ?? 

Hagins; Like I said,... building up a ton of demo songs from over the 1980's ,..jamming when I lived below Cindy in 1986, cranking Sabbath,..but also getting into Bowie, The Who, and GENESIS ,..THE GABRIEL YEARS,..AND JUST 'AFTER",..the first three Phil Collins Singing records,.. AND ROXY MUSIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

METAL JIMMY; STAR, Ben is Dead, and hey Negrita,..22nd Street, God's Joke,..heavy shit man !! AMAZING ALBUM !

Hagins: Yes ,..late 1990, some awesome music,..working with the late Billy Krodel,.. but then we met this guy named Andy Houston,,..amazing studio engineer,.. and on real minimal gear down there in Harbor City ,..we recorded "22nd Street" and all this aamzing shit !! But 1991, here is where the G.e. story gets weird man , Craig Aaronson comes back into the picture,..and I was like "Where the fuck have you been asshole ?? lol "

Metal-Jimmy ; So he heard going Legit,..what did he think of it,..??

Hagins; he was more blown away than ever before,.. he said it was "Genius" his words not mine and that we had really come along way since that other tape in 88',.. I told him that we actually had like 40 BRAND NEW songs but that,..we could only afford to record like 8 to 10,..LOL,,

Metal Jimmy ; So ,..Let's talk about 1991, a pivotal year for G.e. ,.. You and Ted ,..the "New" three piece,.. So which drummer did you guys jam with first ?? Was it Greg or Marty ?? 

Hagins; Actually ,..it was Mike !! Me and Ted tried to play with him for a few rehearsals ,.. it just wasn't happening because his drumming was suited more to metal,.. then,,..one night I heard this dude just hammering the drums inside a room,..like Bonham meets Moon,.. I waited around and when I saw the big dude unloading his gear,..I was like: You're hired for G,.e Bro !! It was Marty Silva !!

METAL ; DID he play the Drums on the "White Black Song" from March 91' ,, ?arguably the definitive G.e. "Grunge" Song,.. 

Hagins; No ,..that was all me,.. when I heard of all the racial shit in LA, the video taped beating of Rodney King all over the news, I was inspired to come up with this unusual amazing track I DO NOT KNOW FROM WHERE !,..it just came into my brain,..like a vision,..I carefully recorded every instrument on it,.. I knew I had something that day indeed !! Like G n R meets the Cure meets Def Leppard meets The Cult meets Bowie !! Ted knew it too, He plays the bass,.. Marty was one of the early people to hear the track; he was blown away !! So was Aaronson !! AND SO TOO ,..WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE !!

Metal Jimmy; What were those early rehearsals like with Marty ,..? 

Hagins: Amazing,..ya know ,..I had to talk Marty into jammin' with us,.. I think he didn't think we were good enough,..but when he heard that tape,.. he was there like the next day ,.. and the very first time we ever jammed,.. we were insane tight,.. like we had been playing for 8 years or some shit !! all just from the three of us,..independently ,..listening to our tape,..
LOL,.. We were that good !!

Metal-Jimmy; But things didn't last long with Marty ??

Hagins; Marty was a rad drummer,... but I think our personalities didn't click or something,.. it was really weird in there,..he was a cool dude, but smoked a hella lotta pot , we played like three killer gigs with him,.. but I let him go June 1991, that's when we found Greg Tarpley !! And this guy fit RIGHT WITH GE. !! I call "This" the CLASSIC G.E. LINE UP !! 1991 !!

METAL ; Another Wilson Stadium gig ,.. 1991 ,..did you guys film that one ? I heard that was sick !!

Hagins: We should have ! We should have been more organized,..this was a key gig !! Somebody in the crowd filmed it ,.. but I've never seen it ,.. very tight,.."22nd Street" I remember was amazing ,.. Whole gig was insanely good gig,.. Me and Arronson arranged for Craig to be there,..but he never showed that day ,..bummer,..cause we probably woulda got signed ! That was June 1991 ,..an awesome month !! More amazing gigs would follow,..and then comes the legendary one we all know ,..at the Hermosa Saloon August 16, 1991 !! The one you have all seen online ,..all around the world !!  THE CLASSIC !

Metal: Do you think this guy Aaronson ripped off G.e. ?? Do you really believe these guys at Geffen just signed Nirvana ,..all because of you guys ,.? You think YOU ARE REALLY THE ONE WHO REALLY INVENTED GRUNGE HUH ?? AND SO TOO ,.do a lotta people back in the South bay,..??

Hagins; "Well ,...look at the footage from Hermosa Saloon,..that is EXACTLY THE WAY WE LOOKED SINCE ABOUT SEPTEMBER 1990 ,..ME, Ted, and a drummer,.. We would film ourselves, take endless pictures,.. record endless songs, albums, and everybody in town gloated about us,.. YOU TELL ME BRO !,, I THINK Nirvana had similar ideas about rock ,..because they were three guys just coincidentally,..who loved punk rock,..and hated metal too,.,..AND ALL THAT THAT WEIRD TIME !....only they weren't from Los Angeles,..which was all metal,..they were from Seattle !! a better place to be from,...at that IMPORTANT time,..IN ROCK'S HISTORY !! WE MADE THE critical mistake of being From Redondo ,..lol,.

METAL JIMMY; THAT GIG AUGUST 16, 1991,..it sticks with me,..and alotta' people,..so many people,..because of the similarities,... both you and Kurt had these troubled family and childhood backgrounds shit,.,..so alike !! Both weird poets,..!! So strange man,.

Hagins; Yeah,.. I remember ,..We mailed that to Craig ,, we printed up all these copies of that show,..because I "Knew" it was so amazing , My brother Geoff filmed it,..he never liked my band,..but he understood that gig; HE LIKED THAT SHOW !! ,..we had played thousands of gigs,.. but that one was so small and intimate,,.SO SPECIAL ,...it really displayed my genius , vision, for the future of G.e. ,..the future of ALL ROCK !! BUT THEN,..'IT' HAPPENED,..

METAL; That day you saw Nirvana on Mtv,..

Hagins; Yeah,..Flipper confronted me,, he chased me around some cars saying he was gonna beat my ass,..he said; "You got our whole shit stolen Hagins" ,.I'll never forget it,.. I called Aaronson and left him threatening voice-mails,."I was like what the fuck dude,..? You guys can sign us too then !!" Then I found out who this Gary was; "It was Gary Gersh THE A & R GUY AT GEFFEN,. ,..the guy who SIGNED NIRVANA ,... I THINK Craig gave him all our shit,..they built it from there,..they saw how organized we were, that we filmed all our shit, took pics,.. We were pros at a level and we didn't even know it,... nobody at the time thought indie rock could do anything,.. these guys "Knew" from STUDYING G.e. ,..OUR FILMS, OUR PICS, OUR BAND,.,..that alternative rock ,..COULD WORK !!!,..AND IT DID TOO !! 
AND IT'S FUNNY,.. because so many people had laughed at me,..especially my own family,..who were never really all that supportive,.. they thought I was an idiot,..told me to dress nicer and shit,..gimme a break,.. sheesh ,.. there were Douchebags tellin' me back then I should dress like Vince Neil,..lol 

Metal ; I believe you bro,... I believe it's all true ,.. but I wonder why they never signed you, never gave G.e. its rightful chance ,..
Why the happenstance ??

Hagins: I don't know what or WHY it all happened bro,..just God,..or maybe the Rock gods,.. and it's so weird,..because it's just like me and a few close intimate people who really know and talk about this shit,..at all,..it's really weird,.. I will never really understand it ,.. many nights thinking about it,..it's like Dave Mustaine being kicked from Metallica type o' shit,..or Pete Best,.. Beatles,.very odd ,.. Later, when I found out Kurt killed himself in that Greenhouse,, that was quite ironic, poetic, and stunning,..almost like there is a Monster God of Our Universe,..who messes with every one ,..or maybe just me,..like the Truman show,.. I once had this dream,, God appeared to me, and He was like " I got yer back bro",...

Metal; BUT,.... Life went on for G.e. though,..and for one more year; 1992,..

Hagins: 1992 was like  this desperate year,.. I just threw out all the stops ,..and went for it,...recorded like 50 songs,... but it was too late,.. G.e. were the "Leaders" of the whole scene ,..but suddenly, we were like complete unknowns,.. I mean people didn't even laugh at us,..We were gone,..from first,..straight to last,.. Grunge and Alternative were suddenly all over the radio AND MTV,.. ,, not just Nirvana ,..but all that other weak shit,..I mean I hated Pearl Jam and those other bands,..to Kurt and ME; WE KNEW FAKES,.. and Eddie Vedder was a fucking FAKE ,..IF EVER THERE WAS ONE !!

METAL; I wanna go back to late 1991,..and talk about "Brandy" before we conclude ,..because I see you are getting pissed,.. now,.. Clear the air here bro; what was that Song about ?? 

Hagins ; BRANDY DONATZ !! VR !! NAH ,..JUST KIDDING !!
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